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Article: 14285 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: Ishikawa <ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp>
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Subject: Re: ftp: SSL/TLS connect COMMAND error: error:1408F10B:SSL
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Frank da Cruz wrote:
> It's written everywhere on our website: The Kermit Project is paid for
> only by the revenue it generates: software licenses, support contracts,
> etc. No revenue, no Kermit Project. It wasn't a joke.
>
> We're hoping the revenue stream will pick up again and we can reassemble
> the group and resume work at our previous inhuman pace.
>
> : I have been told that if every Kermit 95 user was to link to the Kermit
> : 95 page from their web page that Google would list us.
> :
> We have never had an advertising budget; we rely entirely on our website,
> newsgroup postings, and "word of mouth" for publicity. More links to
> our website would be a big help.
One thing you might try is to get listed in Google's category
listing.
Example.
If we type telnet to google search engine, (well I am re-directed
to Google's Japanese engine, it seems. But I hope everybody
sees the same listing.)
we get an entry for "BetterTelnet for MacOS" first.
But above it, we see the category listing:
Computers > Software > Internet > Clients > Telnet
If we follow this link, we get 17 listings of telnet-related pages.
(Yes, too bad, we don't have Kermit link here).
Now, when you look at the bottom of this category link page,
you see a submit a site page.
This is category listing application link. With a suitable
description of the Kermit project page, you have a chance
of getting it listed there, i.e., category for "telnet".
Ditto for "terminal emulation", "ssh", "ftp", "file transfer",
etc..
Actually, I tried to submit kermit to these categories, but
the submission server seems to be overloaded. (Those spammers who claim
"Your web page in major search engines in 72 hours or your money back!"
guys must have overloaded the server very much.).
So I am not sure if the submission worked or not. Also, the submission
is evaluated by human editor and checked according to the
web page and so can be rejected.
So you or your colleagues might want to try submitting the
entry until the Kermit page is listed in these categories
>from time to time.
Of course this is no cure of the lack of user pages pointing to Kermit
web site, but a start for remedying the situation.
I have no idea for the cure for this problem.
(I added a link to my own web pages, but not sure
whether one instance alone is useful in the short term.)
One thing I noticed is on Japanese google engine is that
a Japanase software house was advertizing for a
shareware ftp client for Windows when I searched for ftp
key word. (The ad appears on the right hand column.)
I got curious and found that shareware costs about US 17 dollars.
Google seems to have a method of targeting a very focused
users (for example, this ftp client is obviously shown for
accesses from Japanese domain only) and so it might be
very cost-efficient: otherwise, I don't think promoting
17 dollars shareware won't be possible using google.
Agreed that this ftp client uses GUI and seems to have
some features for casual PC users who just want to upload
their web pages to web hosting sites, etc. and so may have
an appeal to broad market (broader than Kermit???).
So if you can somehow find out the cost of google ads in USA,
and the budget allows the use of such promotion, then
google might be a very useful way to promote the name
recognition of Kermit.
Just a thought.
--
int main(void){int j=2003;/*(c)2003 cishikawa. */
char t[] ="<CI> @abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.,\n\"";
char *i ="g>qtCIuqivb,gCwe\np@.ietCIuqi\"tqkvv is>dnamz";
while(*i)((j+=strchr(t,*i++)-(int)t),(j%=sizeof t-1),
(putchar(t[j])));return 0;}/* under GPL */